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And yes, it is better to have a society than no society, but universal ethics aren't necessary at all to have one. In fact, societies that only had rules for the ingroup (tribalism) seem to be the norm, while those who extend individual rights to "the enemy"/out-group are the exception. The Romans had a very well working society for a very long time. Seeing no problem whatsoever with slavery and torture didn't keep them from having a in many ways very civilized society.