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1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
As far as I know mRNA
research is 30 years old.
Question:
In those 30 years, or 40, if you are right,
How many mRNA vaccines have been licensed for use in humans before 2020 'emergency use authorization'?
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Check also studies that compare vaccinated and unvaccinated children. The kind of studies governments have avoided for 'ethical reasons' for decades.
Here's an example, there are much more burt since covid finding them online has become very difficult.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/research-study-vaccinated-unvaccinated-children-163100186.html
Link to study in article.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
I believe this is more a result of the profit margin not being there to make building and retooling manufacturing facilities worth it, or we would have had them much sooner. They're better in a lot of ways than traditional vaccines
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
I watched a great biography on Maurice Hilleman the other day:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://vimeo.com/393939096&ved=2ahUKEwjUrL6Tk-7vAhXhJzQIHeJ5BrkQ28sGMAJ6BAgDEBQ&usg=AOvVaw17k6AVC2qFVmUN9TQCdlQa
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
How do you know they are better when NOT A SINGLE ONE has been licensed for use in humans except for 2020 emergency use?
Why were they never licenses?
Didn't they try?
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
Umm.. because of targeting accuracies and generalities they have... I.e., the scientific basis for them. They didn't just magically appear; they are the result of decades of very high quality research. Again, we would have already had them if money there
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
I think you should get vaccinated
with at least one mRNA vaccine.
Just don't become a totalitarian nazi-commie
And support forcing people who have no interest in taking part in unpaid medical trials to do the same.
Live and let live.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
If controlled studies showing that vaccinated children are much sicker than unvaccinated children doesn't make you doubt 'the science' and the agendas of governments and big pharma, there is nothing I can tell you really.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
One study, arguably not a very good one, showed some correlations... Meanwhile vaccines have single-handedly save billions of children from a laundry list of diseases: measles, mumps, rubella, smallpox, diphtheria, the list goes on. Thank God we have them
17AiYrFF3noX4dnKjs5Wuu1G4afcfdMEPu (14409) ·
Inject a pack of vaccines a day why dont ya?
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
I will be and so will my children when its available. I also take vitamins everyday. And sure I agree with you, it should not be forced; however, there should also be logical consequences in the interest of protecting others like not being able to travel
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Those who are afraid of contact
with others shouldn't travel.
Your fear doesn't limit
the individual rights of others.
If you think it does, you are a commie/fascist, no offense, just reality.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
The interest of the general public, i.e. the interest of most individuals, Trump's individual interest in terms of alienable rights. You don't need to travel to live. So if you're unwilling to get vaccinated to protect those around you, you shouldn't fly
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Are you aware that the man who probably vaccinated most people in the world and is a big supporter of vaccination recently realized that he has all the necessary data to compare vaxxed/unvaxxed chilsren and came to the same conclusion?
Search and you find
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Your collectivism has no power here.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
You keep going back to this one cherry picked argument. Can you prove that vaccines had no part to play in eradicating: measles, mumps, rubella, polio, diphtheria, smallpox... Etc. That's what you're saying. Look at the history of the 20th century
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
Wrong. I'm not collectivist and governments are necessary in a capitalist system for exactly these reasons.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Covid and communism have in common that you can be infected without even knowing.
You, my friend, are a commie and your fear is turning you into a tiny tyrant.
Keep researching vaccines, at least in the name of your children...
All the best to you.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
This is exactly what I'm talking about. We need to get away from this on Twetch for it to grow. I'm a moral capitalist (see the Theory of Moral Sentiments & Conscious Capitalism). I'm a Classical Liberal (Smith, Locke, Hobbes, etc.), I.e. conservative
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
It's ok and healthy to have different opinions, and it's ok and healthy to debate and learn from each other. Thanks for posting the link to that study 👍
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
It is indeed healthy to have different opinions and debate.
What isn't healthy is some people believing they know what's best for everyone and infringing on the rights of peaceful people who don't agree with them.
That's totalitarianism.
We tried that...
1KFTq3LLGBnAW8S2R7GFDvqGLkYydgZSiH ·
Compare US vaccine schedule to other countries. Compare our schedule today to earlier versions. Certainly there is something to be said for some of them, but the question about when they should be administered and possible effects is valid.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
Always. Completely agree. And they should be continued to be studied and questioned, no doubt. However, the immediate need outweighs the fringe case negative consequences, and a mountain of science is there to back that up
1KFTq3LLGBnAW8S2R7GFDvqGLkYydgZSiH ·
Product failures that kill people are not tolerated elsewhere. Why so with vaccines? Also, the studies that I referred to are not being proactively performed.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Sometimes all you have to do
Is zoom out.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
You owe your children to be aware of this study:
https://www.mdpi.com/1660-4601/17/22/8674/htm#
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
Lol. what? Yes. This is obvious? And those unvaccinated kids aren't dying because the majority of kids in most countries around the world today are vaccinated... why would unvaccinated kids be any less healthy? That's not how vaccines work...
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
This makes no sense and it's also grammatically incorrect. Any study worth looking at would never willy nilly choose a bunch of vaccines to test; they would choose 1. Instantly discredits the entire study.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Do you understand "vaccinated children appear to be significantly LESS healthy than the unvaccinated."?
If you did understand it you probably wouldn't be laughing...
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
Then, they say this in the intro which is factually incorrect. All credible studies look at "outcomes" whether positive or negative, it's bad scientific practice to look for "positive effects". Again, this discredits the entire study.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Amazing how you deal with scientific research that doesn't support your views...
I'm sure the greatest mistake they made was not consulting you about their methodology.
Your mind can't be changed with facts because its conclusions are based on feelings.
1KFTq3LLGBnAW8S2R7GFDvqGLkYydgZSiH ·
Can you (Monk) cite a wholistic study that addresses the positive and negative impacts of today’s vaccine schedule?
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Also take a look at this:
https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/02772240701806501
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
I was unable to find these studies with a search engine. If it wasn't for Twetch I wouldn't have been able to dig them up again.
Bitcoin closed the memory hole.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
The mere fact that they are using the terms "vaccinated children" and "unvaccinated children" shows the utter lack of medical/scientific knowledge these authors have. And again, no credible study would EVER choose more than 1 vaccine at a time to examine.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
So not only did they not account for the huge variance between vaccines by choosing "vaccinated children", they also cherry picked their data from 1 year... sorry, but this study was awfully done.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Since in your mind you are the arbiter of what is scientific and what isn't, changing your mind is out of the question.
'Trust the science that makes you feel comfortable with your decisions'
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
I'm not sure what you mean by wholistic?
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
I don't care about being right. I'm looking at evidence presented. And the torrential mountain of evidence and literature all says vaccines are medically safe, effective, and are single-handedly responsible for extending the life-span of our species 30+
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
Here's a comprehensive list of vaccine research from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/research/publications/index.html
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
https://www.vaccine101.ca/post/cdc-whistleblower-dr-william-thompson
https://vimeo.com/325604650
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
Again, you're attacking me personally. I'm pointing out factual discrepancies with the paper you posted. There are basic scientific practices. A list of credible research from the CDC: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/research/publications/index.html
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Pointing out that you just dismiss studies that don't support your views isn't a personal attack.
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
You'll notice they either all examine a single vaccine or they look at a single data analysis vector.
17AiYrFF3noX4dnKjs5Wuu1G4afcfdMEPu (14409) ·
Did soap help?
1Fr13p57Ym4AMMTHN7BhcGUh4ECSsCEYPN (968) ·
Absolutely, soap has had a profound effect on health: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK144018/
17AiYrFF3noX4dnKjs5Wuu1G4afcfdMEPu (14409) ·
Ill stick with soap. Enjoy your injections.
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
I've shown you 3 studies that compared vaccinated and unvaccinated children.
All of them found that vaccinated children are significantly more sick than unvaccinated children.
Is there a study comparing vaccinated and unvaccinated with opposite results?
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
You should also read this:
http://vaccinepapers.org/high-mortality-dtp-vaccine/
I hope all of this is at least enough to reconsider your opinion that there is no doubt whatsoever about vaccines.
And again:
Live and let live!