16RWrumxKd8NGCSpaQATUVUSoUBe5s3vVV ·
The vaccine isn’t going to stop people from dying.
80% of covid deaths are ‘end of life’ deaths.
In other words these would have occurred within a year regardless of covid.
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1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
This is in all honesty. That means if your mom or dad or grandma or grandpa would have died frok it you would have said "yeah but they were going to die anyway"? Thats a serious question im trying to see if that makes sense to me
16RWrumxKd8NGCSpaQATUVUSoUBe5s3vVV ·
I say this not to be cold.
It comes from data.
To the extent that the covid response has broken from reality, equally the solution must also break from reality.
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
I think if we had a lock down we should have been paid to do so. But i feel everyone should be wearing a mask when they cannot social distance. Is that over kill?
18xEUFHkRNdJWiDSPURAJVV5A3iuw4e1Rk (21877) ·
That's the thing, like, how is there no debate at all except for what our emotional response to end of life deaths should be? The one thing that has nothing in particular to do with COVID.
Most people support optional flu shots for the elderly.
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
Because we have antibodies against the flu so it really doesnt attack us as hard as it would if we had no antibodies. Covid is new not as deadly as the spanish flu but its something that is new.
16RWrumxKd8NGCSpaQATUVUSoUBe5s3vVV ·
In 2 months when there is abundant vaccine available for vulnerable people, do you say masks in the trash or are we suppose to worry that the vaccine might not work for 10% and mask forever ?
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
Not sure depends what experts say. And real experts not youtube ones. Ill ask my sons doctor to be honest. Im not going to take twitters word for it. Cause 1% of the 10% of population is extremely less right then 1% of the total population simple math
1E5wYaMr6BYL3qHSZQ3sPqaQHvaCVoYcfh (678) ·
mask forever bro that … aint going away.
The problem is the small loud minority and these pricks are always going to demand u wear a mask in public to protect them.
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
Also take into consideration the people that are not gonna want to take the vaccine and the ones that will still be refusing to wear a mask so yeah it will be a while
18xEUFHkRNdJWiDSPURAJVV5A3iuw4e1Rk (21877) ·
There are many differences between COVID and the flu. As for the OP's comments, I guess he is literally correct in the sense that everyone dies one day. Also, 20% of COVID deaths might amount to "a lot", I dunno.
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
Leading cause of death in the US is heart disease with 655k deaths per year. Averages around 1800 deaths a day. Last few weeks we averaged around 3k deaths per day due to covid. Atleast you cant give someone heart disease.
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
If we had no mitigation can you imagine the amount of deaths? Lets be real here you can believe people on twetch and twitter bit even with preventative measures its kicking our ….
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
And winter just started. We in for it my dude and it hasnt been a year yet. We will be at abput 500k by the time February comes around making just about a full year.
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
If heart disease being the leading cause of death were contagious....everyone would be going nuts right now. The pandemic is real man. I think people just want to see people dying in the streets to believe it. Careful what you wish for
18xEUFHkRNdJWiDSPURAJVV5A3iuw4e1Rk (21877) ·
That's really where the numbers and facts would come in.
A) What mitigation strategies have been done that worked? How well?B) Which ones did not work?
C) Which ones should we have tried but didn't?
D) What are the costs and benefits of these strategies?
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
Mask. Number are up in counties with no mask mandate. Lockdowns are tough government should have paid us to stay home and not worried about corporations. The numbers went down but people got laxed the protest the rallies summer hit everyone listening /1
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
To twitter doctors were like "this is bull …" people took it less serious. Numbers shot back up.
18xEUFHkRNdJWiDSPURAJVV5A3iuw4e1Rk (21877) ·
Masks are a no brainer. "Lockdowns" is a very ill defined term. I think an actual extreme lockdown would've helped in the beginning, no place in the world did that.
"Lockdowns" actual turn out to mean little other than senseless government harrasment.
18xEUFHkRNdJWiDSPURAJVV5A3iuw4e1Rk (21877) ·
Here in Canada, they didn't do ANYTHING at all. People get it all mixed up, we just have (slightly) less pre-existing conditions. The government did nothing to quarantine emergency workers, nothing to help the elderly, late on closing boarders.
14CZHkzv4DR5RTtZq98dNU1kdKT6wDMom6 ·
didn’t China go ham with the lockdowns while everyone was focused on impeachment in the US.
18xEUFHkRNdJWiDSPURAJVV5A3iuw4e1Rk (21877) ·
I don't know what to believe in China. I think SK had a targeted sensible lockdown strategy. But the key word would be targeted. That's the whole point. An actual lockdown to get rid of it. At this point SK has covid again.
16RWrumxKd8NGCSpaQATUVUSoUBe5s3vVV ·
reason I complain about lockdown response- it is killing me slowly.
Employer locked the building 9 months ago. I exist alone 7x24
my BP is very high for long time now.
this is likely taking years off my life, if I stop posting here I died a heart attack
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
We have alot of no brainers here. Talking about a piece of cloth over their face is violating their rights. Too much selfishness in the world. Too much self entitlement. Thats what happens when you grow up privledged.
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
US should have put a full stop on rents mortagages ect. Gave the citizens money to stay at home. But you know big corp wanted that economy moving to keep lining their already loaded pockets. The greed is too overwhelming
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
Why dont you go out for walks.
16RWrumxKd8NGCSpaQATUVUSoUBe5s3vVV ·
I do. this is a mind-body connection. If people lack a social existence, whether family or friends or work, that's going to be hard on the heart physically.
Being alone as a one ages is known to take years off of people's lives, and not for lack of will
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
Im a homebody i love being home but i have my family so its a difference. I just leave for work for a couple hours and come home. Its my fresh air and exercise for the day.
1z4hdDnjSwqkukN6VuSFjfmA9Zj29YHWc (25395) ·
Get on tiktok it is … hilarious people are too funny.