Trees use Karma and what else?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zMtXR2EscEQ&si=hXSM_4-KZ8KZVBbA

https://youtube.com/live/XyILOQclxKg?si=_FRAMyA-eUn6Xsp4

https://youtube.com/live/8B_iFhufSm8?si=V9LK1LxhEz1KoXks

https://youtube.com/watch?v=zbLETgXha2Y&si=fI_h_2-Nl1CQpV5q