It's kind of crazy that we need a word like "organic" to de…

Also the fact that they are priced higher is silly... requires less handling and processing, it awful how the worlds powers have things so damn backwards at the markets and media.. we hit up local farmers markets, seems to be decent prices most of the time

Let's build some food supply chain solutions on BSV
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yes crazy.. i think we can't trust 'organic' .. we need to grow our own pure food. this "modern world" is a BIG business with our health.

Agree! Bring back communities to share love and food.

A supermarket should have a food section and the other section labelled food with toxic chemicals

We may not be able to change it for our generation, but I hope we are able to for our future generations.

It would unfortunately take over 90% of the supermarket.

We also keep a small garden, that gets bigger each year, helps to offset costs and lets us have a little fun watching our food grow, seems to taste better when we put the effort into it ourselves, if 2020 taught us anything, its to be more self sufficient

It would be an interesting experiment to see as most people's food would be in the toxic chemical section

Thats so great! Thats the goal!! As soon as I can I plan to own some land where I can do the very same.
"Organic" is more expensive due to the heavy regulation and high bureaucracy. To get the official stamp the legal process is expensive.

If foods are truly organic and non-gmo the risk of loss is also higher as they have a shorter shelf life, and crops can be damaged by insects etc. In any case, the community has been lost.

will you grow pumpkins?

It is an entirely different world.

Organic farming in contrast is woefully inefficient. In fact, the processes which constitute large scale farming are efficiencies, which by virtue of being efficiencies succeed in the market.

Ideology props up organics.

'Organic' certification is now entrenched in lobby and all that comes with big business.

There are hydroponic processes much cleaner and superior to organics that use organic inputs that don't get the rubber stamp of 'organic'.

'heirloom tomatoes' - ripen individually, are far too tender
tomatoes on the market: ripen all at the same time, shipped green and unripe, ripened with gas near end of supply chain

heirloom tomatoes simply cannot compete in the marketplace

If you are a non-gardening node, you are not contributing to the decentralization of the food supply.

I save seeds and clone plants even!

You can plant them in your raspberry pi raised bed!

Anything bigger is entirely impossible...

I'm sorry, but vertical lettuce farms grown hydroponically under LED are superior than a field of dirty lettuce. Efficiencies are in fact important to scale.

Pesticides are like antibiotics; their overuse results in their impotence.

Clean environments, ones which are not susceptible to disease, are for the amenable varieties the best choice.

If you ask me many small foood gardens are a much better idea than few industrial size operations.

When it comes to food production decentralization is actually very important.

Specialization in an advanced economy necessitates industrial size operations. Organic farming practices cannot support humanity in its current form. So we must pursue both.

Just like nobody in their right mind wants to abolish the state tomorrow, nobody wants to shut down big agriculture tomorrow.

The idea is to replace vulnerable and dangerous centralization step by step with decentralized solutions, making it superfluous.

I'm not seeing the value of the centralization dichotomy applied here.

In my region there is big agriculture, then there is big organic, and then there is small scale organic. food is sourced from fields which are owned by many farmers. what is problem?

No problem.
As long as you have access to food...

There is so much wealth where I live that entire classes of people are able to maintain an economy that would not exist if food was bought from a pure cost based analysis.

Small scale organic farming would be priced out without the community support.

Alternatively, there were points in history that without the widespread application of dangerous chemicals many many people would have continued to die and starve.

There are many sides to history. This is but one narrative. In many times in history governments overreached and confiscated food from locals and that was the reason for mass starvation. They were no longer personally incentivized to produce.

As a consequence of this, purposefully, Monsanto appeared to "save the day" by overtaking and poisoning organic land and replaced with GMO. This was of course an elaborate plan to poison the world and have them graciously accept it "for their own good"

Someone once tried to ask for my investment in a group of companies that had monsanto on the list. They weren't pleased with my response.

'sunshine rice', the genetic modification of rice to boost vitamin d in the population, is arguably a great thing.

Vitamin D should be absorbed by sunlight.
This is not addressing the real issue here, just a bandaid cover.

To the extent that vitamin D deficiencies are caused the specialized economy( air pollution, work/life indoors ) it would take the unwinding of and restructuring of society akin to but not to the extent of what it would take to fully farm organically.

Still not really addressing the root cause though.
Vitamin D is absorbed by our skin (our largest organ) and fortified in our gut. Our gut health is pessimistic due to our overconsumption of non organic processed and GMO foods.

Adding more GMO's to our diet is not the solution, it is part of the cause.
Since our skin is our largest organ, it also has to do with what we use on our skin, washing with soap for example and using aluminium filled products

To achieve such things strikes me as to necessitate a reduction of economic interaction, a reduction of economic specialization, a literal reduction in the amount of humans the globe supports
nay, through technology I think we must solve this else collapse

is another reason for malabsorption.
Vitamin D stays on our skin for up to 48 hours to be absorbed over time in order to build a supply (especially those with light skin and bear heavy winters)
Soap washes it away.

Supply and demand.
The more people demand organic products the more they will be made.
The more people who search for a more natural life, the better we will all be able to live and have access to these modern "luxuries"

Not even to mention the heavily toxic fluoride in which we typically drink and for the most part bathe in. These are choices made for us. But I do believe we have the power to create change. Its all about becoming conscious.

I grew up in South Africa and never realised how much I love the sun until moving to Europe. The winters are brutal!

Skipped away for a little holiday in Tanzania, gosh, do I love this sunshine! ☀️😍 Thinking of how to make it a constant in my life.

One of the reasons I moved to Rio de Janeiro!!! 😍😍😍

"Vit.D3..made in the living cells in the epidermis..after exposure to sunlight vitamin D3 remains in the skin even when the skin is washed with soap and water immediately after the exposure to sunlight" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3897598/

“Freedom” is the name they give to THE ABSENCE of tyranny.

Ah. The powers that be will never label the poisoned food "POISONED".

Soap easily dries out and reduces the natural oils in our skin. Vit D is fat soluble, therefore if you are washing with an "oil-free" soap or a soap that dries out your skin (most do) Low Vit D absorption is a direct result.

For this reason, a major Ayurvedic practice is to soak the skin regularly in natural oils like almond or jojoba.