It's easy to dismiss any comparisons of bad culture to Nazi…

And then there is the fact that calling everyone right of chairman Mao a 'Nazi' for years now was apparently entirely acceptable...

Not that the double standard comes as a surprise, but it is so obvious it almost becomes invisible.

Mass propaganda, demonizing of dissidents and minority groups, massive state intervention to "protect" the nation, economic stress (and incoming inflation).

We're one epidemic away from the American version, and I already know who the scapegoats will be.

Is there anything we can do?

Stop feeding the monster by watching or participating in any of their media.

Always!

The best is to start with ourselves. Work daily to live free and choose the right thing instead of the easy wrong thing.

Then live and work in such a way that it helps others become more free and less fearful as well.

That doesn't seem like it's worked for over 100 years.

I think we flee the USA. It's simultaneously the most powerful country in the world and a rapidly decaying empire. A terrible combination.

Optimism and entrepreneurship cannot save a sinking ship.

We should live and build elsewhere.

I think you're right.

Of course, part of living as free and right as you can is choosing where best to exercise your freedom and not being afraid to move there.

What else can you do but live as free as possible?

Perhaps, but it also replaced something that had lasted for thousands of years, so there is a track record.

Start a micronation on owned land, they're perfectly legal!

“That whenever any Form (sic) of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government…”

I don't think that will work.

If people learned to attach proof-of-work to their ideas they would be a lot better at knowing their own interest.

I think an easier thing to do is to just move to a country with a relatively small and underfunded central government that doesn't have the time or resources to try to micromanage everyone's lives.

Agreed.

Yeah what countries sound interesting to you guys

It certainly has a bad track record through history. A noble goal, but typically ends in disaster. If it gets enough traction to threaten a nearby nation state, it get crushed or absorbed.

That's the tough part.

The near-term quality of life trade-offs are tough, and the long-term prospects of some tiny dysfunctional nation aren't great if something like war or global tyranny set in. Look at Pacific islands, they get conquered in every war.

I'm a fan of Caribbean, but isolation would be tough on my fam, plus if shit gets ugly, blocking a single port where all food/goods come from is not hard, vs say rural US with many options.

Hard to predict and weigh present-near future-far future.

Yeah we're looking at the Caribbean right now. Some islands have better internal food production than others. Not having kids yet makes this decision a lot easier!

Yeah we're looking at the Caribbean right now. Some islands have better internal food production than others. Not having kids yet makes this decision a lot easier!

Most micronations are trivial enough to be ignored. There has to be at least 1 us state liberal enough to ally with that would experiment the idea of a more humble, self sufficient nation that is hasn't such a strong anti-establishment rhetoric.

The all road-kill diet travels well! ;-)

Where there's a road, there's dinner!

Until it is gobbled up by NWO

Is there a good example in history of a society countering this type of bad culture that we can learn from because I don't know what to say or do when people start to laugh at me with masks covering their faces.

Where?

it wasn't dark in Germany... to begin with. Hitler started building - autobahns - he got people working, families could put food on the tables, enjoy life again after decades of suffering post WWI.

Now with 'climate change' people want govts to step in.

bugger I liked my own twetch!

People pushing for climate change are like Germans wanting govt to provide jobs - all that happens is govts get bigger, are given more funds to tackle the non existent problem... make new rules.

Then it gets dark,
very dark.

I think the ending of the slave trade in Great Britain is incredible example. (See Thomas Clarkson) 20 year peaceful educational campaign changed conscience of a nation.

Fall of communist Poland. Underground became bigger than above. Govt gave up.

How many souls do you think are needed for a new community?

What institution shall be the first one?

Which religion as a bedrock?

Tel Aviv started with 27 families.
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