1KJBLu2QbTgzcxXxS5vuhSFvQBCy9s2wYy (190) ·
Remember when CWS said adding privacy, eliminating ability to do chain analysis, and doing mixers was crucial to bitcoin and he was about to release it?
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1Jvg1Ggqo564iuyaLE1RqEdGetwqzNCC1L (116) ·
I memba.
But Roger Ver bad.
Crime.
Lawr.
Risk.
Finance.
1KJBLu2QbTgzcxXxS5vuhSFvQBCy9s2wYy (190) ·
I thought you were drunk and high at the time?
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
What are your thoughts on that topic?
I was convinced by his argument for privacy and against anonymity.
Anonymous coins would take the risk (money handover) out of a lot of crimes.
1JhqXx1VQXK87VFHMtzQFYt1wDNhbDpiRT (2283) ·
He was just working to trap criminals like Adam Back bro
1KJBLu2QbTgzcxXxS5vuhSFvQBCy9s2wYy (190) ·
I like the option to have both.
1KJBLu2QbTgzcxXxS5vuhSFvQBCy9s2wYy (190) ·
6D chess. Trust Great Man with the Great Plan!
1GwecezoL8jciHU2Ysyupxrnv18JMGAV6R (4245) ·
Fair enough.
So far I have never heard a good argument on how to deal with the fact that kidnapping and extortion would lose most of their risk with anonymous coins becoming wide spread.
But maybe it's just a trade off.
1KJBLu2QbTgzcxXxS5vuhSFvQBCy9s2wYy (190) ·
Yeah it's an important point. But we have lots of stuff today and through history that is equally hard to trace, and people tend to find innovative solutions more adaptable than blanket trace-ability 100% of the time baked in.
1BVZCW4DCSqLVa4dyPAWvno1D2kdg6Uhk3 (16028) ·
Nah, that was me. Still am.
Anyway, this was a strange period just prior to the final BCH bitcoin depredation.
There was another video where Craig detailed one such possibility. It had nothing to do with mixers or funging up the core protocol.
1BVZCW4DCSqLVa4dyPAWvno1D2kdg6Uhk3 (16028) ·
Hint: IPv6 in that example.
Nuther Hint: After the final split, one the first things Craig started explaining about bitcoin that no one ever got, was what the true intent of SPV was all along.
CSW may have been in full-on troll mode at that point.
1BVZCW4DCSqLVa4dyPAWvno1D2kdg6Uhk3 (16028) ·
That point in time being right before the CSW Hong Kong Long Dong Showdown and public pubic bashing of Roger the dodger. By then, the gig was just about up on Craig's covert mission (according to Craig).
Anyway, it doesn't matter.
1BVZCW4DCSqLVa4dyPAWvno1D2kdg6Uhk3 (16028) ·
Peer to peer transactions can be as private and obscure as you'd like (and in some ways, afford).
The bad guys caught via chain analysis were probably just dumb.
Privacy will the coming generation's next great frontier.
The MetaNet will never sleep.
18bmuQkUAePW7Qjc1rfKqd95v1PX9msGrQ (3741) ·
Issac, privacy is different from anonymity, and accountability is different from surveillance.
1KJBLu2QbTgzcxXxS5vuhSFvQBCy9s2wYy (190) ·
I agree. But CSW was explicitly endorsing things he explicitly denounces now, less than two years later.
1Jvg1Ggqo564iuyaLE1RqEdGetwqzNCC1L (116) ·
Here is the earliest version of Bitcoin.org, November 1 2008.
1E5wYaMr6BYL3qHSZQ3sPqaQHvaCVoYcfh (678) ·
arguably CAAL funded handcash already does mixing when you send
and he is right that a huge transaction volume makes you more anon
but yeah
Many of us got into bitcoin because we wanted monero.
14mTHtYdMt9wtCFWNj6YUhYL8ACPrVPnNz (20825) ·
Maybe Roger Ver had some influence on him during that time. Or he thought it would help BCH win more adoption against BTC. CSW has been mostly consistent from what I can see with some blunders like you point out. I believe we must go off of the now.
1JGRKvMLw73hzBKB34GQhbWdvNSUdZxjwm (7634) ·
Yes I remember.
1EzXMDpxp3cYvHGUBZ9sF7BHStRVxayKaw (6218) ·
he probably doesnt believe most of the lawr things he is saying now. but i am sure he believes its best for business.