We should be onboarding people when the price dumps so the …

Good luck with that. People only want to be onboarded after the price goes up!

Bitcoin will never work until people are using Bitcoin without realising they are using Bitcoin. If that doesn't happen soon enough, everyone will be using Gates666Coin instead. BTC has stolen many years of progress, makes you wonder who's side they are on

People need to know that they're using Bitcoin. Otherwise it's deception.

embed a paybutton in the NYT page so readers pay 10c/ article. they load a $5USD wallet via credit card and hit the button at will. under the hood is a BSV - stablecoin combo. do users "need to know that they're using Bitcoin"? -- i don't think so.

eventually, they will know.

Businesses can still use Bitcoin under the hood while selling their services for fiat to the outside world. Its not the clients concern how the business is achieving its deliverables.

In my professional life, I sometimes sub-contract portions of the work to others. It isn't deception as long as its my responsibility to deliver at the end of the project.

It is if people hold bitcoin and aren't told what it is.

Then the businesses are using bitcoin and know about it and the customers are not.

The easiest way to onboard people IMO is to make useful apps that use micropayments as then nobody really cares too much about price but it gets used, and they also can just earn it instead of having to buy at an exchange.

Yes, that would be deception. But, what I mean is, for example, if Twetch decided to directly sell interactions to fiat paying customers through some credit card payment gateway, then Twetch doesn't owe them Bitcoin, they owe them Likes and Branches.

Yes, and that would be OK (though certainly not ideal). The business owes what it promises to customers, not the underlying tools it is using.

That's a waste because earning dollars is less efficient. Also you shouldn't hide bitcoin from people. That's not very nice!

Normies will never switch to Bitcoin when Gov taxes them in dollars. This is why GatesCoin will take over, Gov will make it so and tie it into everyday life. Bitcoin can't win as money head on, too late, BTC wasted that chance.

That's just silly. Being taxed in dollars is not a reason for dollars to be valuable. "normies" cannot change economics. If they decide to hold dollars for bad reasons they'll just lose.

It's silly to think the average person will just understand your thinking.
They will hold dollars & they will lose & then they'll take GatesCoin implant that makes them lose more. That is the fight your up against, solve that problem. Bitcoin isn't manna.

Bitcoin has to become money for computers now. That's it's only path to success. It needs to be a better 'money' for comps to talk to each other with data. It will become money for humans when there's no steps between getting it and using it....

but that takes a lot of time and we don't have time anymore. GatesCoin is close & they don't care if it's centralised, they don't need a perfect design. They'll bruteforce it into society. Bitcoin as human money is lost to time. Need to win the data fight.

Bitcoiners know about streaming music from the cloud but are normies are still using vinyl and 8-track. We want them to understand they can stream music directly but need to walk them through cassette, CDs, Mp3, iPods before they evolve their thinking.

Not necessarily. Topping up a rail/bus pass card with fiat money, then every swipe at the gate is a bitcoin transaction. Its the gate system that uses bitcoin, not the user. Bitcoin can be used as a function outside of money until unity makes it money.

https://twetch.app/t/aae20b7dbba2765e3709fa0f9353a72e9eea42f5b58e98ab5bfedf6ed8d126f2

People who have a brain implant will also lose. This is a future prediction contest. People who aren't even trying to predict the future will lose. If you're being controlled, you will lose. That's just how it works.

I agree, lots of people will lose. Can't Bitcoin win thou? GatesCoin is coming and he got the entire globe shutdown in 8 weeks, Govs talking his vaccine, his chip/coin ready. Bitcoin 12 years in is just a paper stock on bucketshops. Who is winning?

https://twetch.app/t/ff8036a00bfeb0ec16296e5d96856a49e343aa76f1e9c1b4f426dc66d1d8dca6

https://twetch.app/t/f2a28d4b8e150addc8f53c01d2341c53a1833005221f5f8a88461f943e80b56a

What if the Bitcoin they are holding represents something worth much more than the value of the Bitcoin?

Like a 100 million assets per coin.

Bitcoin will win it makes sense. All the most rational people will want to use it. I'm betting on those people. They produce the goods/services that I will want to buy in the future. I still hold USD instead of my local currency for the same reason.

I disagree. https://twetch.app/t/0107d65d37512871987862d4fe9312f055309d7ab79696e33a3cdd19273cfc4c

The most novel thing about Bitcoin is the ability to do micropayments. All of those businesses you mention work well enough with fiat. So, it is not easy to start with those things. I think it's best to start on new areas that only BSV can handle.

https://youtu.be/xUrpRenjEpo

Micropayments work in the real world. Not just the digital world.

Open your mind. https://twetch.app/t/ff95b57d396d8823781fd3bf1a24f5977579dfbc60932d21da57dcccd5051c5e

I agree @175 ... speaking from experience, my biggest barriers to entry were lack of understanding bitcoin and how to actually acquire it for the first time (not just trade) ... took a few weeks of educating myself to buy-in. but, here I am

And for ignoring me: https://youtu.be/UyrRfiTkdGE