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Not gonna lie I don't believe in literally putting the weight of this world on my kids shoulders.

That's why I don't, and won't, have any. It's not their responsibility to fix this dumpster fire. Better not to subject them to it at all.

You've piqued my curiosity.

Whose responsibility is it to fix this dumpster fire?

Helping them become better we ever could be.

Big fan of your work Zuby 💪👏👏

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It's nobodys responsibility. And certainly no kid of mine. Not a chance would I willingly subject a kid to this nightmare, let alone expect them to deal with the ever-compounding, existential problems here.

The world would have to be a much different place, heading down a much different path, for me to feel comfortable subjecting another sentient being to this experience, which I know for myself has been incredibly painful. Why would I want that for my kid?

If they are born into this world, they could make the same choice you are making by choosing not to take responsibility.
You're not even giving them that choice.

That's pretty odd circular logic

Why should I subject another human to guaranteed pain and suffering here?

"But they will experience love and happiness too"

Sure, but I have no guarantee they will experience more of that than pain. I certanily havent

I think it comes down to hoping and working towards something better. If everyone gave up, then we are definitely screwed.

It's very selfish not to consider these things. It's very selfish to think "My kid will make the world better" with ~7.5 billion and counting, and all these compounding, massive existential problems.

Not a chance, at this point. Maybe 100, 200 yrs ago.

You are talking to yourself, or someone else. I haven't mentioned happiness or suffering. I have only referenced responsibility and choice.

What if I believe the probability we're screwed is very high, and the proximity of that screwed-ness is very close?

Why would I bring a kid in here if I see a grim future at hand? It doesn't make sense to me. I lean heavily towards "we are def screwed".

And it's absurd to think "Hey, looks like we're definitely screwed - I should have a kid to fix that for us, maybe"

????????????

So, that's why I'm not for it. I don't see us making it out of this century w/o decimation, therefore I ain't havin kids.

I mentioned having experienced a lot of pain here in one of my first replies. That, combined with a piss-poor outlook on the future = I'm not subjecting another life to this. No way man. If one believes the world will be worse yet, why would they?

That's obviously your choice and good on you for sticking to it.

Hey Zuby😀 Glad you made it over here. We talked back on Twitter, but I deleted my account over there. Anyhow, I’ve been sharing my art here and really like it. Let me know if you want a Zuby art piece / BSV Token. It’d be cool to collaborate 😀

Its genuinely not even a choice. I mean I'm not choosing to not have kids, it's an autonomous reaction to observations/experience here. It's not a "choice". It's just instinct. "If world/life is painful and looks like it will get moreso, then I shuoldn't"

Same. Welcome to twetch fam.

It is obviously a choice. And it is based on flawed reasoning. The world doesn't even have to get better, only your outlook does. Some people literally do not have the choice of having children.

"It obviously is a choice" -> "Some people literally do not have the choice".

It's not a choice either way. Nothing here is, but that's a whole different can of worms. Because some people do accidentally, doesn't mean I should have them on purpose.

Better to have less money and raise your own children than to have more while entrusting them to the state and corporations.

100% agree

I home school my kids. Will not let these schools brainwash my kids with identifying as him/her/mermaid talk while wearing masks and not allowing them to get proper oxygen

I teach my boys to be men💪

Likewise. Let me know if one of your sons wants to pen pal with someone of the same age. :)

I had to look up Pen Pal. I asked my 7yr old and he said yes without any hesitation. He doesn't have too many friends since I home school him. DM me your address. My son can start the first letter.

Thank you this means a lot to us🙏

Can't agree more. They are the future.

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Or choosing not to have any especially when they themselves are not decent...