not even just online, also irl meetings, that might even be…

not even just online, also irl meetings, that might even be the origin of the habit, it's hard to schedule things irl so people use any meeting there is as an opportunity for every kind of socializing so if you go to do anything you're volunteering for a bunch of basic social stuff that's just added to everything, if something is "discussion about X" then it's "discussion about X +schmoozing & catching up w/ people +meta about organizing the discussions about X +etc"