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It's really awful that the rich just don't care to help others. I guess that's how they got so rich. Greedy and Selfish. All this talk of helping others yet they do so little. Billionaires are profiting MEGA from this scamdemic its criminal.

Kyle's advocating for massive redistribution of wealth naively misses the point that redistribution does not level the playing field, but reduces everyone to the lowest common denominator. What we need are free markets so everyone can share their talent.

No, the redistribution of wealth needs to come in the form of social programs which do level the playing field ie Universal Healthcare, Universal Universities, Universal Basic Income (due to automation) etc. Universal policies level the playing field.

Necessities being in the free market has always been a shit tier policy decision that result in unnecessary suffering and death ie Healthcare, education, housing etc.
Private markets should exist but not before they're publicly provided to everyone

And Kyle has always argued for a redistribution of wealth that funds social programs.
So I fail to see how he is naive when he argues for universal programs.
Universal programs help everyone regardless of income potential.
Public Taxes >>> Private taxes

Sounds like universal servitude.

Socialism is just a modern term for Heredity Monarchy.

Don't be a Serf.

Not universal servitude.
If you think it is that what you are telling me right now is that you think every homeless person deserves to be houseless.
Every person who gets cancer, AIDS, Alzheimer's etc. and can't afford treatment deserves to die.

In the modern era, we pay taxes, the government better give me benefits so I can achieve my full potential.
Ask what the government can do for you, not what you can do for the government.
Otherwise there is no point of having a government anymore.

Yeah right, and after you've handed over your liberty for worthless government promises of prosperity, who's going to listen to your complaints?

How about you fucking work to achieve your goals and then help some of those less fortunate?

Frankly I don't care if you choose servitude.

Just don't try and choose it for me. Or you can expect some serious pushback.

The East German communist regime promised full pensions free medical care and housing for all seniors over 65.

Unfortunately over their 45 years of existence they were only able to cover that for about 15% of the population.

Party members 1st, of course.

Henry Ford is what we need. $5 a day wage. Everyone said he would go bust. He ended up building an empire. Labour is under rewarded (mostly because of policy)

Yet, everyone was housed.
Homelessness/houselessness is a policy decision and is a form of coercion by the government to force poor people to work horrible jobs for less.
So I disagree with your premise.

Redistribution of wealth should only ever come in the form of voluntary charity. No person or gov should have the ability to take by force legally earned wealth from one person and give it to another. That is called crime against sovereignty and humanity.

Also, if you look at data of countries from the Eastern block peoples, majority say they were better off under the communist regime than they are today.
So your argument falls flat if the people of said country say they were better off before.

I disagree, governments need money to function.
All your idea leads to is a lack of social mobility if there is no baseline standard for how people are taken care of in society.
Also voluntary charity is a scam.

No they were not all housed, propaganda muncher.

And of those that were housed, many were forced into decrepit, poorly constructed ghettos.

Just because a government full of brainwashed nutjobs promises you something, doesn't mean they can deliver it.

Yeah and being in some decrepit poorly constructed ghetto is still preferable to being houseless.
I've lived on the streets before and I wouldn't wish that on anyone, it is the worst form of government violence in order to control the poors

Also, the government is made up of people from said country.
If your government is filled with brainwashed nutjobs it's because the general populace are brainwashed nutjobs.
Where do you think people in the government come from???

I think its been sufficiently exposed that agenda driven MSM 'polls' no longer qualify at 'data'

Having traveled through former Czechoslovakia & East Germany within 2 years of the fall, I can assert that sentiment on the ground did not match your 'data'

part of that i don’t disagree with: governments need money to function.
however, governments can have revenue from a tax on voluntary retail purchases.

Not necessarily. Whoever heard of a Communist regime holding a free & fair election?

Just look at the Dominion Voting Machine selected politicians currently serving throughout the US for a recent example.

Just because they don't have free or fair elections, people within the government still come from the general populace so the predisposition doesn't change a thing

The US election wasn't rigged. Orange Man lost cause he did a shit tier job with Covid

And voluntary retail purchases are not enough to fund modern governments.
The amount of man power you need to run the US empire requires several forms of taxation.
My problem is most of disc. budget is wasted on military

Bingo. I would also advocate for a return to a family wage instead of rugged individualism (i.e. every man/woman for themselves). It's a dog-eat-dog, spouse-eat-spouse kind of world these days. That's not healthy. BSV = creative collaboration.

/trolltoll @42069 $45

Yeah and anecdotal evidence isn't evidence proving or disproving any point being made

I'm afraid you're wrong here.
Modern government spending is rife with inefficiency, corruption, misallocation, theft, etc.
A limited, sovereign and pro-freedom government could operate on a fraction of the revenue from retail sales tax.

And in contrast, no amount of taxation will ever be enough to fund your socialist paradise.

Socialist regimes always produce diminishing results, because the most talented citizens are are less valued than the most loyal.

I agree with you insofar government spending is rife with what you said. That's why BSV and blockchain is so important it's an immutable audit trail which will cease corruption.
Any examples of said governments that operate under your viewpoint?

I'm not a Socialist lol
I'm a Capitalist, I just believe in Social Policies
I also believe not every industry needs to be privatized like healthcare or education
We live in a global economy how do we compete with China that has these policies?

All of them... even the U.S. now, sadly.
Unless one is looking, it's not quite so apparent, but there is a global effort from a top few to implement the type of socialist agenda you admire.
You just might get what you wish for.

Like I said, I am a Capitalist. I just happen to believe social policies like universal healthcare, housing, and education are not Socialist policies the same way Military, Libraries, Police, Fire Fighters are not Socialist policies.

When everybody is special (equal), then no one is.

I don't consider universal programs like healthcare or education to be socialist.
I view them as a necessity due to global competition.
How do we compete with China which has these universal programs?
Should we really be making our citizens debt slaves?

I agree, however the policies proposals I advocate for just ensure the poverty line is the starting line instead of $0.
Even in Monopoly, you get $200 at GO! because otherwise the game would be unplayable

I often pass the homeless and wish they had more than $0.
Then, I realize they're standing all day on a dangerous median begging for handouts when they could be earning.
We have to remember that some people choose to earn $0.
They have that right.

The trouble with social policies is determining baselines at all. Before we can get there, local municipalities have to address the immediate needs of their people. The bottom line, there's really no blanket policy other than respect for human dignity.

Poverty in a free market is a personal choice.

A lot of those beggars are mentally ill which was due to Reagan era policies that defunded mental health institutions forcing homeless people onto the streets

This is true for those who are able to engage the free market, but for those who struggle with psychological or physical disabilities, there will be cause for charity, which someone good at building charities can freely choose to build.

Honestly, it depends on a lot of socioeconomic factors. If you're black you're prolly always gonna be impoverished because lack of social safety nets like healthcare, education, and housing.

Not really, why can all of Europe, most of Asia have universal healthcare and education?
Somehow in the United States it's close to impossible without receiving opposition from the number one terrorist group on the planet (The Republican Party)

Charities should not be responsible for government duties. Charities typically exist because the government has failed to do its job

I've never heard anything good about universal healthcare.
You enjoy that.

We have excellent private insurance and healthcare in the U.S.
Only thing messing it up is the encroachment of socialism... it's f'ing everything up.

yes, of course

I suppose if one doesn't mind being brain washed by propaganda in the institutions and fed medicines that do nothing but treat symptoms rather than cure, sure...

lol... that's pretty racist!
assuming black people are incapable of prospering like everybody else is the most victim-seeking, racist thing possible. The left loves this kind of talk. They cry racism at everybody and everything, when they are the racists.

How is going to university brainwashing?
I have a bachelors of Science in Accounting and Real Estate, I didn't learn anything remotely "brainwashing"
And as for medicines, if you get cancer, I don't think you should go bankrupt as is the case in the US

You really should try to not paint with broad strokes. There are successful people from all walks of life. What impoverished people don't need is a constant handout that keeps them from developing the skills or motivation to achieve their potential.