Funny how none of those astronauts will put his hand on the…

Funny how morons who don't think humans went to the moon (happened 6 times btw) won't bother doing the most basic research in how it was done considering it's one of the most documented events in human history. You can literally listen to the entire Apollo 11 voyage audio between command and the astronauts, track the entire journey, look at the thousands of photos, watch all the video, read through all the schematics of how the tech was built, study all the data collected by probes and satellites etc etc.
Imagine risking your life to do something great for humanity when the risks were massive and the chance of success was slim and then getting morons constantly trying to rip you down with gotcha questions.

https://youtu.be/9HQfauGJaTs?feature=shared

When someone explains to me why Freemasonry runs so deep in NASA I might even consider that this is actual footage and that they somehow reached orbit and managed to rendezvous with the orbiter in that ridiculous thing.

Until then I'll have to go with this being yet another way to fleece and deceive the people. It sure was a good distraction from the JFK assassination.

What don't you understand about the Apollo 17 take off?
This is the problem these days, you assume it's fake because you don't understand how it works. Instead of finding out what is happening you blame magical Freemasons???!
That's moronic, don't be a moron.
It's very easy to explain how this take off is happening and it's a great read if you want to go find out how it was done. I'll give you a few clues, it's using a compressed gas, no ignition (obvious reasons if you think about it) and the camera is being controlled from Earth on a 3 second delay. The operator who's name is Ed Fendall, had to send the signal to make the camera pan when it was 3 seconds left on the countdown. He didn't even get to watch it live because he was busy punching in signals to operate the equipment. They tried this in previous moon landings and failed each time, they managed to get it right on Apollo 17, the last attempt.
You can even find videos of the attempts where the camera panned to early or was off centre and missed the take off.
Just do some basic research, it's amazing what you can learn when you don't just assume things like morons do.

It's not what I don't understand about it, it's that I saw the video of the liftoff with my own eyes…

I assume you have no explanation for all those astronauts being freemasons and for the scientists being in secret societies and sex cults?

To be fair, you saw it with your own eyes and then decided your too smart to be fooled so you stopped thinking. That's what happened. Instead of thinking 'how was that done' and going and finding the answer you shut your brain off from it.
It's the internet mind-set of it's more interesting to think it's some big grand conspiracy than just finding out how it was done and having the answer settled. We live in a time when you can find the answers to almost anything at your finger tips but people still choose to be ignorant because it pats their ego on the head.
In regards to masons, again, what's the big mystery? Why do people think they hold some magical powers or some major influence? It's more internet-logic to assume it's all an evil agenda of secrecy. That started from the catholic church around the late 1700's when the masonic orders grew and the enlightenment period started questioning reality imposed by the church. The church made sure everyone thought the masons and their symbols were evil!!!
Symbols are mysterious if you don't know their meaning but if you don't speak Italian does someone speaking Italian mean they are hiding evil things with their strange talking? Once you learn Italian you can understand what they are saying and it's no mystery. Using a symbol is just another language but their language was hidden in private clubs and if you weren't a member or didn't have access to their libraries you couldn't understand their language. That's changed now with the internet and PDF archives if you wish to figure it all out. The mystery is there for the taking.
9 out of 10 masonic lodges are mens clubs, usually filled with ex-service members who look out for each and their families. They were big after the war when there wasn't any thought for mental health or support groups for widows and families of brothers that didn't come home. It's a place to go to be with likeminded people.
Most of the NASA people in the 50's & 60's were test-pilots, ex-military, i…

Funny how the official story has many flaws and stuff which makes no sense.
Look, I do not know what happened, but I am quite sure, that the moon landing footage is fake.
Do I can be 100% sure?
Of course not.
But in my mind it has a very high probability, that it is fake.
Do I build my worldview, ego or existence upon on it?
No, I got better anchors.

I love the "moron argumentation style" - always enriching any interaction.

Wow, so you tell me I can listen to the whole audio?
I could have made an audio when I was seven years old where me and my brother traveled to alpha centauri first, afterwards went to candyland planet and then traveled to the milky way and ate one milky chocolate bar after another. Returning to earth completely safe and sound. And all the other kids believed us. Because their good friend steffen has told them, his brother said it was true and they even had an audio tape.
Happened over 7 times btw, more often then NASA went to the moon.
I am not sure if there is anything easier fakeable than audio, especially when on a tape.
Where is the original video content from the first moon landing which would actually have some weight?
Rhetorical question, you do not have to repeat the official NASA explanation for that convenient accidental loss.

So where you make the distinction and draw the line between your knowledge you got from all the photos you have seen, readings you have read and audios you have listened to on the internet and us morons which also have consumed content on the internet?
Because it is from the official NASA site?
And 9/11 is true, because the government website says so and even has video footage of planes crashing into the towers?
And corona was a killer virus, because the government and official organisations say so and even have statistical graphics which supports their narrative?
And a BTC transaction including 2x8 million bitcoin coinbase transactions to AntPool and FoundryUSAPool is true and valid because over …

All the landing sites of the supposed moon landings were on the side of the moon that ALWAYS faces the earth.

That means that the earth was ALWAYS in their field of vision when filming or taking pictures.

You'd think they would pan ul every damn shot and show it to you.

I think it also means that the shot of the earth on the moon horizon cannot possibly be real.

google the photo “flag points home”

The earth is directly overhead from the moons surface, but you could see it dip below the horizon if you were at the moons poles

The photos of the earth with the moon in the foreground were all taken from spacecraft, not from the surface

Good point about the earth-rise pictures taken from orbiter.

The flag points home picture, on the other hand, raises more questions than it answers: the earth is WAY too small in it.

Seen from the moon the earth would appear much larger than the moon from earth.

They would have had a massive earth right above them all the time and all they got to show is a picture with a tiny earth you can hardly make out?

That's ridiculous.

Earths diameter is 4x bigger than the moon

Since it’s equal distance from us as we are from it, the Earth would look 4x bigger in the moons sky as the moon looks in our sky

Since we know what lens was used and approximately where the photo was taken we could do the math to prove it one way or the other

Or, if I were to take a 60mm photo of the moon from earth, then enlarge the moon 4x, it should have the same approximate size as this photo, which it does

We spent billions,
Billions going to the moon or
Billions faking that we did

If we faked it, we didn’t make a silly mistake like getting the size of the moon wrong

I found two different claims that the earth appears 13 times bigger from the moon than the moon on earth.

Could be wrong, I don't know.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/startswithabang/2017/03/18/ask-ethan-how-bright-is-the-earth-as-seen-from-the-moon/?sh=782cec0e769d

Either way, you tell me: you are prancing around on the moon and you don't take amazing pictures and footage of your home planet that's right above you in the sky, WAY bigger than the moon, constantly changing colors, spinning etc etc?

Makes zero sense.

Moon diameter- 2,159 miles
Earth diameter- 7,917 miles
~3.66x size difference

We took lots of photos from the moon. Some had the Earth in them.
Some had both the Earth and the sun in them, so you can’t see jack (too bright)

Most don’t because the astronauts would have to point their camera straight up. Also consider they were large format cameras mounted to their chests.

"We" didn't take any pictures.

A bunch of apron-wearing brothers from a secret society did, allegedly.

Can you look at the liftoff from the moon and tell me with a straight face that you believe this is actual footage? Turn the sound off to make it even more obvious.

I can see the moon in the sky during the day.

If the earth appears 4 times bigger and A LOT brighter, that would make for tremendous footage, wouldn't it?

I'd pan up after every single shot. And so would anyone else who's actually there.

We being humans.

I don't think the liftoff video is fake, whats the issue with it?

We have photos and videos of the Earth from on and above the moon and it is tremendous!

If I could post an image here I could show you a photo of the moon where I've scaled it up 4x. Definitely noticeable, but remember both the moon and earth look smaller the further they are from the horizon. You need the right zoom, resolution, and the correct exposure to actually take a usable photo, flag points home is probably the best.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ebbinghaus_illusion

The issue I have with it is that it is obviously shot in a studio. They pulled it up with ropes and then turned the light on it on when they reached the ceiling.

Everything about it screams fake.

But hey, what do I know. Maybe on the moon everything is fake and gay and that's why they didn't even manage to take good pictures of their home planet right above them in the sky.

Maybe I'm just retarded, but in my mind the flag points home image and this cannot both be real:

https://time.com/3985573/far-side-moon-picture/

Let's get back to the size question:

If the radius of the earth is 3.67 times bigger than the radius of the moon, wouldn't the earth appear 13.48 times bigger than the moon?

At least that's what chatGPT tells me.

So we’re going from a 6” pizza to a 24” pizza

The 6” has a radius of 3”
To find area we multiply pi * r² to get 28 square inches
For the 24”, pi * 12², or 452 square inches

The 24in has 4x the diameter but is 16x the area, this is where you’re getting the 13x number.
The math works about the same for the moon and earth
3.7x diameter, 13x area sounds right

But we’re not calculating area, only comparing their size ratios.

Since the Earth is 4x the size of the moon, and we’re the same distance, the earth would look 4x bigger from the moon as the moon does from Earth

The “blue marble” photo looks huge!
taken 18k miles from earth, so why doesn’t Earth look huge from the moon? Because the moon is 240k miles away, on the surface of the moon that photo would appear 13x smaller


Does that all make sense?

So is the earth surface we would see from the moon 13 times bigger than the surface we see of the moon from earth?

That is a lot…

On the picture I posted the earth is much further away than the moon. Therefore the earth would appear smaller.

Yet it looks gigantic compared to the moon.

Google “forced perspective” then google
“Dolly zoom examples” to get an idea of how that would be possible

With the right lens and distance I can make any object look as big or as small as I’d like

We can also use the approximate sizes of the earth and moon in that image to figure out what lens length was used, and how far away that photo was taken.

I want to reiterate here that we spent hundreds of Billions on going the moon. If those billions were spent faking the moon landings, we definitely didn’t mess up the simple math.

There’s a lot of unanswered questions about the landings and the propaganda, but I think the math and image perspectives all check out. Gets a passing grade from me, I’ve tried to debunk it, but only became very convinced the more I looked.

I realize it's possible. But why would they do that when taking pictures of earth and moon?

Anyway. All I'm saying is there was a massive earth right there in the sky above them and they almost completely ignored it.

If that isn't strange, I don't know what is.

Close to zero sense, but yes.

It takes a less than 100 IQ to conclude the moon landings were faked. There is no full frontal shot of the earth ANYWHERE. There are very, very few photos of the earth at all. The extreme lack of content is the most compelling evidence. When you lie about something, the tendency is to present as little evidence to support your lie as you possibly can. Such is the case with the "moon landing" movies made by Stanley Kubrick.

Hey… where's my live cam of the earth from the moon???? With zoom capability??? Because I'd like to see ships and buildings UPSIDE DOWN in Australia. Because I can do that of the plasma luminary we call "the moon" here from Earth quite easily using my Nikon P1000.

Did we lose that technology? David? David? Beuller?

https://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/apollo/catalog/70mm/mission/?17

If you google Apollo 17 hasselblad magazines you can find thousands of images taken from the lunar surface

I can happily debunk any pseudoscience thrown at me

Do those pictures have a release date?

I mean: have they been released after each mission or years after?

I have just finished watching the video which I have linked.

Ok we obviously have a problem by not having a double blind study where we would know which group would have been to the moon and which group wouldn't have been and how each of them reacted.

But in my opinion their overall reaction and behaviour is really weird in most cases.
Like a lot of other things.

Not to mention it was on the horizon, while all missions were on the side of the moon we can see from earth, it should have been directly in view, not on the horizon.

He seems to be referring to this one:

https://science.nasa.gov/resource/a-flag-points-home/

It is where it should be.

AFAIK the earth appears 13 times bigger on the moon than the moon on earth.

Imagine running around on the moon taking pictures and videos and there's your massive home planet right above you all the time but you only manage to take this picture.

It's absurd.

The ego is involved just as much in believing the entire official narrative as it is involved in believing the entire alternative narrative. In the former it's about belonging to the rational, educated and powerful vs the nutcases. In the latter it's about feeling awake and ahead of everyone else.

Those who search for truth don't choose a team to beling to and then toot their horn on every topic.

If you can look at that footage and say to yourself "this looks real", find with me. I look at it and everything screams fake.

When it comes to Masons, they are indeed largely a boring club. But that'snot the whole truth. They are, after all, part of the mystery schools. Pagans who swear an oath on their lives. These are the people you want in operations that need a high level of secrecy. And if they are sexual deviants even better, kompromat is a hell of a control tool.

https://scottishritenmj.org/blog/masonic-astronauts

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agape_Lodge

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babalon

And just a reminder:

I didn't say they never went. I don't know. I'm saying that footage is fake and gay af.

If indees they went, I guess they didn't want the people to know about their secret tech financed by trillions of dollars that disappear quietly or go into black projects.

I think it's also possible that they went to the moon - and maybe go all the time - but we never got to see the real footage, for whatever reason.

I think also that they did go to the moon but did not show the real thing to the mass audience. So always have a backup narrative ready. Thanks Stanley!

A large part of "knowledge is power" is not sharing your knowledge and technology with thise you rule.

We have no way of even knowing what kind of tech they have.

They should not use a bible in court, perhaps a copy of ones own bank statement would suffice.

Way to put us in our place, david. Calling people a moron is usually the most compelling evidence.

well that's that then.