Flood of bots has absolutely been detrimental to Twetch app…

Maybe it's time too call this experiment a dud and move forward. This place was the hottest place a month ago

Time to ban the bots

There's too few active users for bots to be justified. All its doing now is crowding the recent feed. If Twetch had a fuckload of users it wouldn't be a problem.

agreed, what do you all think is the solution?

I'm thinking a mute function is a start

Could /pay me to blast em all w my death ray zorcher

Personally I wouldn’t take the time to mute bots, feels like having to earn a clean experience. Early on was an intrinsic value in Twetch made possible by the purity of the experience - the absolutely personal and unique content. This needs to be revived.

change the top feed to bot feed

any other ideas?

people like the game incentive of the leaderboard. Bots made some fall off.
Maybe you could tweak the algorithm a bit to favor users over bots .
tho , at scale most people can’t make the leaderboard. So how to extend game incentives for visibility?

we dont do algorithms, but we are thinking about how we can give users more controls of what they see

While the “following” tab is still clean, the “latest” tab is littered with bot activity, complicating the user’s ability to seek out new content.

Maybe there could be a way that users can subscribe to interests and find other users that share those interests without going to an annoying and diluted group model like powping did

i tried following more people but posts slowed down regardless. there is a interaction friction here compared to twitter because pay to play here.
The bots increase the friction, to mute them is not going to be fun...

I think Top is working fine.
I use ‘Following’ mostly. But I was surprised how many people use ‘Latest’. That’s where the bot impact is.
I would be fine it was replaced without a user paid to enter but others might not like that

Make using bots costly..... It is advertising and that isn't cheap

hahaahaha

I get having a bot to promote yourself. Its a smart idea. Making Twetch look like twitter not so much. Twetch will succeeds by doing what Twitter can't. Does Twetch need bot?

It will be a problem to interact with new fresh Twetchers, but maybe Bots is a way to foreshadow a way to scale

I def appreciate twetch model around following people, better than following topics

Could there not be a function that when you click LATEST you can mute all bots. Make it a payable addition and the money you pay for muting the bots gets distributed between the bots themselves.

An ability to search/follow subjects by way of hashtag underneath a separate tab may be worthwhile however could still be impacted by bot activity, although less likely. A way to mitigate this would be using something other than # leading the search term.

Definitely don't want to reward something I would rather not see. I do like a one time mass mute

You are paying to not see something you should see. you wouldn't pay 2 cents to mute? The people who have invested in their bots receives these small payments in lieu of you not seeing them on the LATEST tab.

I'm not sure, it has the ring of socialism. I would love to not see them. Trolltoll is the mute already.

Extra bot tab, free the latest feed from it.

now you're thinking

just had a 4hr convo about this w @1 we got something gooood

Randy I’m always thinking, where the fuck u been?

what can we do with this feed https://twetch.app/first

Troll toll is the mute for humans not bots. Bots don't troll you. to use troll toll there is a fee to post. I am suggesting a fee to block all bots from your feed in one shot. I don't know why you think my idea is socialist. because they get the 2 cents?

I'm not going to interact with bots, I would like them to go away. Why should the blockbot feature supplement the bots existence? I do like the idea of hiding them. I do think the price of using the bots is way to cheap currently.

You don't want to see bots (me too). But bots are a part of the system. Behind the bots people are paying to earn. Why should they be excluded without being compensated for their loses? I think brave browser does this. You can pay to not see ads.

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Most bots exist with nearly zero interactions so I would argue the price isnt too cheap on the basis of virtually no ROI. My core issue is that they’re just third party operators feeding high profile Twitter content into Twetch. Its literally just noise.

I don’t want to pay to not see ads, I want to be paid to view them. My attention is the commodity in this transaction therefore it is the component of value.

I could get behind the concept of bots that have the option to buy their way into your feed. This would incentivize automated content delivery. Bots would more likely be a product/service based function built to farm interactions or gather information.

Isn’t that the follow button?

No. I dont believe many bots actually follow anyone. If they do its 1 time fee to add your content in their feed. A more appropriate bot concept would be similar to Twitter’s promoted ads but w fees paid to target audience to push the post into their feed

Challenge accepted, let me chew on this

I’m sorry. I meant that the follow button puts bots on your feed. I understand we are talking about latest. I think that removing bot posts is a slippery slope.

Yea I dont see the point in paying a bot to include their content in your feed, just go read it on Twit for free. Nor do I want them to be removed. Having said that I do want them to stop clogging up the Latest feed.

Good content is good content. Whether I’m talking to a person or a bot. So bot content gets cleaned up, but I have to sit through 800 posts of Jason or Jen’s food reviews because they’re human?

Anyone who is following Or interacting with a bot is effectively paying an individual to feed them someone else’s content which is already available for free. I believe Twetch is striving to build a much more intelligent and valuable economy than that.

Somebody is paying to have that content posted, regardless of where it comes from. I don’t think it matters that it comes from twitter. If I spin up the same content on a local drive and have the bot Twetch it, is that any different?

If u want to pay to have 1 way interactions with bots delivering someone else’s already free Twitter content that is your prerogative. Too much of this bot activity will water down the Twetch experience & create a reverse flow of users back into Twitter.

Value is subjective and this discussion is a good example that clearly illustrates that idea. It will be up to Twetch to decide what it wants to do as this is their baby, but I am in the treat all UIDs equal camp.

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I actually do think that is different. My focus here is third party individuals creating bots to feed high profile twitter content into Twetch. I would feel the same way if it was similarly being fed from any other social media platform.

Okay, but the initial point you were making is that bots are bad for twetch and should be cleaned up on the latest feed. I disagree.

This is a good point. However, Twetch’s main source of new users is Twitter recruits. If I am a new user I follow no one so my first experience/exposure is with the Latest feed. If that is completely inundated with Twitter content why would I pay to stay?

Exactly
A couple of my favorite interactions are with new users seeing and interacting with Twetch