Actually refined grains is not accurate because the process…

Actually refined grains is not accurate because the process of refine is about the milling, it is about how you crush the grain to obtain flour. That means even an ancient grain flour can be refined if you mill it mechanically. When you do that, you remove the fiber totally and you have a less nutritious but easy to digest flour. The only way to have a wholegrain flour is to use a stone mill. Stone mill is real whole grain.