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Sorry it’s behind a paywall, That refers to just that one vaccine does it not ? I am not a denier by any means I had long COVID before it had a name but there is no need to be coercing people into getting a jab which seems to be happening

Recently they hyped up they was going to have to stop vaccine rollout cos there was going to be a supply issue. Then SAGE dropped that possible 3rd wave in June / July chart to scare more people and yesterday they now say that’s not going to happen

Yeah it refers to AZ in U.K. which is what I’ve been saying the whole time! I know nothing about Pfizer but it seems like some slimes politics there. The OG post by River was claiming COVID wasn’t real. And yeah, fuck coercing people to get the jab!

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Companies claim to be non profit yet still the managing director ends up massively wealthy. AZ deal probably has backhanders that are not public. a real pandemic does need a PR team and misrepresented data and signs telling people to act like they have it

Welllll there needs to be some incentive for the job of MD, especially in a pandemic. They’ve promised to give away vaccines at P.O.P throughout the pandemic. Once pandemic is over, Oxford Uni, which helped develop it, will take 6% royalty

Nobody here is being forced to take the vaccine. The U.K. are in debate about vaccine passport and largely anti- the idea.

it’s not like insulin in the US, where they’re making you pay extortionate prices for something you need to live. We get it free on the NHS (taxpayer money yada yada) it’s a choice and the company’s profit will develop science further x

They are not largely anti-the idea of Vax passports i follow politics closely, Tony Blair was advising the committees on BBC Parliament a few days ago on it and its worrying that they are really looking at implementing it.

‘December 2020 Michael Gove said that the government was not planning to introduce vaccine certification, and vaccine minister Nadhim Zahawi also ruled them out in early February 2021, stating: "That's not how we do things. We do them by consent".[8]

Yes and in January both were attending meetings discussing implementing vaccine passports

They’re currently leading a review on it to be published in June. Arguably, you do already need vaccines to travel to certain countries. People don’t start riots about those.

Both as in Gove and Blair, presumably?

Yes I been watching them on the bbc parliament channel. This photo below from the sun is from March 16th 2021 says Gove’s vaccine passport plan. He may of said that in December but his actions since say a completely different thing

He’s heading a review, doesn’t mean it’ll happen. ppl in gov are v fiercely against on both Tory and Labour sides. ‘Vaccine Passport’ is also not really an accurate label atm, as if you test negative for corona w/o vaccine, you’d have a ‘passport’

thats still £240 on tests for a single bloke to go away for a few days. How is a family of 4 on minimum wage jobs supposed to afford that for their only holiday of the year. The international vax passport is a green tax in disguise

Yeah I mean the more you guys speak about the US the more corrupt and awful it sounds. Vaccine passports would be free here which is why I think we’ve got more room for academic debate. That’s fucked. Free healthcare!

I am in the UK Molly, these are the costs to leave the country now, i was due to go to Tenerife friday and have wasted £80 on booking a test so i can be fit to fly then you need 2 more on your return.